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Message:   Standard Size Balloon

From: zappaz1     Sent: December 7, 1999     Message 1 of 10

Hi Flormo, In regard to your question, I just pulled a balloon out
of a standard cuff. It has a rectangular shape and is flat. It
measures 8.5 inches long and has two tubes 21 inches long connected
to its side. The distance from one end of the rectangular flat bladder
to a tube is 5.5 inches... so if inserted "up to" the tubes as some do,
it will not be inside the full 8.5 inches. The edges of the rectangle
could be called seams but they are not thick seams.

I now roll the bladder sideways into a roll, making the width of
the bladder less than an inch across and still 8.5 inches long. I hold
the middle of the bladder with fingers of one hand around the middle,
and start pumping with the other hand (after turning the twist knob
clockwise). At 16 pumps or squeezes it starts unrolling and is
about unrolled at 20 squeezes but is very loose and I can squeeze it
to less than an inch across easily. At 30 squeezes it is 3 inches across
and I can tighten my fingers around it and make it 2.5 inches or less
across.. with just moderate tightness. At 40 squeezes it is 3.5 or so
inches across and I can squeeze it to 3 inches across. Tight squeezing
of the short end where the tubes would be outside the vagina will let
me enlarge the lower part where it would be inside the vagina up to
4 inches across... depending on how tight I squeeze. Some love doing this.

I will now expand it past where most would stretch to... just to test it.

At 140 squeezes, it is 22 inches around and squeezing on one end makes it
23.25 inches round below the part squeezed. It is much more globular
in shape, but still oval. Very tight squeezing with both hands around it
in the middle allows me to squeeze it to be only about 17 inches around
at the point of the squeezing. At 200 squeezes it is 26 inches around
and becoming more like a ball. At 300 squeezes it is 30 inches around
and very much ball like. At 400 squeezes it is 33 inches around and
I try to compress it with "tight squeezing" between my knees but only
mash the ball to about 7 or 8 inches across between my knees. I can not
burst or break it. I am now tired of pumping it and let the air rapidly
out by pulling off a hose from the connection to the squeeze bulb. After
35 seconds all the air is gone and it measures exactly the same flat size
it was before I started. It would have gone down much slower if I let
the air off by turning the twist knob counterclockwise.

So that may give you some idea of what it does.

A few women with very deep vaginas will take the entire standard size
balloon before much stretching of their opening happens... because the
outside part will just move or "jump inside" into their deeper vagina,
as it gets bigger. I knew of one huge lady who bought a larger size so
it would not jump inside her as she filled it. This allowed her to
insert the balloon rolled around a blunt rod to the full depth of her
vagina and then when she pumped it up, she still had some of the balloon
stick outside of the vagina. This allowed her to practice stretching her
vaginal opening as she filled the balloon instead of just swelling it
larger with the entire balloon inside the opening (but most would not
need the large size balloons that are made).

The vaginal moisture the balloons stimulate tends to make them get very
slick and they can sometimes even shoot out with straining and
"tightening up" upon them.

zappaz1


From: flormo     Sent: December 8, 1999     Message 2 of 10

Zappaz1,

Thank you for all your "expertice" with this matter, but I'm beginning to think that a standard inflatable dildo would be easier and certainly more sensual. Could be wrong however. It just "seams" like a lot of work to roll up the bladder and deal with the tubes that are attached to the sides half way up, etc,etc.etc. Granted, it seems that the dimensions that are obtainable with the bladder far exceed that of any commercial inflatable dildo, but is this the only advantage other than cheaper costs?


From: zappaz1     Sent: December 8, 1999     Message 3 of 10

Hi Flormo, I would predict that better products will be designed for this purpose. Some can feel the tubes if inserted very deeply and those people require the "larger than standard" size balloons. The tubes are not in the middle but more toward one end... allowing the inside part to be farther in and free of the tubes depending of the size and depth desired. Also some special designs have only one tube even closer to one end of the bag... but those balloons are harder to find locally and may have to be borrowed from an electronic kit... to easily find one.

The BP balloon was just the first vaginally inflatable method that was used... years before the present commercial inflatable dildo products. Its present advantage is that it comes in... and can be made... all different sizes. It is widely available and very cheap. It is often easier to use for partial insertion... allowing the outside part of the balloon to be easily squeezed by many different methods... to stimulate the inside part... for better orgasms.

Also, for those rare people into "birthing fantasies" and huge stretching... it is presently the best.

zappaz1@excite.com


From: flormo     Sent: December 8, 1999     Message 4 of 10

Thanks for your comments. I've discussed this with my honey and she wants to give it a try. Just to give you an idea in terms of how good of a sport she is, she came over last night with: coffee beans, pork tenderloin, cream, eggplant? and KY jelly. What a gal. I love her.
ps: Haven't tried the eggplant yet.


From: zappaz1     Sent: December 9, 1999     Message 5 of 10

What a game girlfriend you have! I think she will enjoy using it more when you are away and not available to do fisting. It seems to work better to gradually prepare for fisting and other large stretching, as the stretching does not require pressure "into" the opening but does a more gentle stretching from "inside outward".

However, without a fisting partner, it can be a good substitute as it can be twisted and also squeezed on the outside in many ways to make the inside part swell and move. I just chatted with a lady on the internet who told me how she only uses it when her boyfriend is away and she can't be fisted. She likes to try to squeeze it out and told me how wet it made her. The feel of real fisting is very hard to beat. But just for a controlled way to get the extremely full feeling some like (without pain) it is great.

Self usage might be better for some, as a partner could overdo things.. unless new stretching was very gradual.

As this is a form of vaginal stretching, medical advice in those who have contraindications to such stretching must first be sought. It is also important to follow all the other things that people who do large stretching should practice. Naturally there are "best ways" for "anything" sexually enjoyable.

Zappaz1@excite.com


From: grosvagin     Sent: December 10, 1999     Message 6 of 10

Flormo, please keep us up to date on the BP bag experiments. I have spoken to you Zappaz some time back on the net and have not yet gotten around to trying it but think i will in the future. Would love to hear comments and, better yet, to see pictures of what it does, before trying though. As for the eggplants, flormo, your GF will not regret it. In my mind, they are the best toy for playing and stretching.
Have fun,
Grosvagin


From: zappaz1     Sent: December 11, 1999     Message 7 of 10

Yes, for those that don't like the hard feel of squash and cucumbers, eggplants are much better... as they give a little and are very smooth. Also, later on you can eat them a "second time" *smile*. Of all the vegetables I am told (by most) that they like eggplant the best.

The BP balloon gives even more as it is even softer than the eggplant. I have known some however who like "very hard" things" :-)

zappaz1@excite.com


From: flormo     Sent: January 15, 2000     Message 8 of 10

By the way Zappaz, my girlfriend and I did experiment with the BP Bag a couple weeks ago. It was "Okay" although because of the extreme slippery nature of the smooth rubber along with KY Jelly,we had a hard time keeping it in the vagina. It had a tendency to pop out quite easily. It wasn't very sexual as I had thought because of the "medical"' look of the bag. I allowed her to control the pump so she could determine how much she wanted. We could actually see her lower stomach area get larger as she pumped it more. We might try it again. Her favorite Dildo is the "Jeff Styker" model. Quite large! I might see if it's possible to take out the latex insert and install the BP bladder instead.

Tom


From: wsm2     Sent: January 21, 2000     Message 9 of 10

Hi all! My wife has a large inflatable toy like the one used by BJ on her web site. It is quite enjoyable but the pump was really cheap and broke early on. Is the hand pump on the BP bladder a sturdy one? She really enjoys the feeling of something streching her inside, we once tried a heavey duty ballon attached to a small rubber hose. She practically came constantly when we inflated it. By the way this site is primo!
Bill and Renee


From: zappaz1     Sent: January 22, 2000     Message 10 of 10

Hi flormo,

The BP balloon is very slippery as you mention. Most I know do not use KY but just let the natural lubrication flow. It can pop out easily, but will stay in if held there or sat on. You might try keeping it in for her with pressure or let her partially sit on it. Measure her circumference around the balloon and let us know how far she stretches.

Depth wise, those that have the depth to take the full 8.5 inches can keep the entire thing inside while pumping and then just try to "give birth" to it. If she does that, use the two hoses to pull the balloon against the opening from the inside... you will think the appearance of doing that is "extremely sexy". Doing that pulls the bag against the opening, and the opening of the vagina stretches "outward" an inch or so... I think you will love that appearance.

For reference, remember to plan ahead and measure the bag circumference after a given number of bulb squeezes.. on the outside.. "before" she pumps it up, inside.

For those that can "not" take the whole length, it stretches the opening better than anything else that I know of (if it is restrained and not allowed to pop out). There are many ways to keep it from popping out if it tends to do that... some even like to squeeze very hard and try to push it out :-)
------
wsm2, the bulb pump on most of these BP Kits is of good quality, and would probably last longer. The lowest priced kits I have seen are $12.95

zappaz1@excite.com

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