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Message:
Elimination
From: porcupine Sent: 12 Oct. 2004 Message 1 of 5
Folks, once in a while you have a question that turns your face red. In this case, my sweetheart has a question and is too embarassed to ask, so the job falls to me. I hope this does not offend anyone, but it is a serious question, and there is no better place to ask than the membership of this club who are devoted to the healthy enjoyment of vaginal stretching.
Here goes: My sweetheart is 50, had a total hysterectomy last November, and has been fisting for the last 15 years. She can accept both of my hands (Large Male Hands) and loves it. Off and on she has been concerned that this is not healthy, and may be a compnent in her recurring low back pain. Also (hold your breath), she cannot go "potty" unless she covers her vagina with her hand and presses upward, providing support. We have never fisted anally, and she does not do Kegel exercises for fear that it would tighten her vagina and decrease our fisting pleasure (mostly mine!) I have encouraged her to exercise because I do not feel that there is a correlation between the strength of a muscle and it's range of motion, arguing that you can have strong muscles and fist at the same time. She is worried that her "pelvic floor" has been irretrievably damaged by fisting, and that she will never be the same.
She is understandably concerned about this, but places fisting at the top of her list of prioritites. I place her good health above all, but hate to give up fisting considerring she never had trouble at potty time until after the hysterectomy. The low back pain is another matter, and has been constant for years even though she has had discectomy surgery to relieve it.
Sorry if this is an unpalatable subject, but we are desperate for the input of our friends at CindyandJoe who may experience in these matters.
Thanks Joe and Cindy, and all the members, for your understanding and your advice
Porcupine.
From: Jimm Sent: 12 Oct. 2004 Message 2 of 5
Since she never had this before, most likely the Hysterectomy weakened the upper support and that is the reason for requiring pushing up to urinate (that is no problem unless it bothers her otherwise). Doctors will always do surgery if you let them, but that is only needed if it really bothers her a lot, as people I know can no longer do fisting if they try to do the surgery. The back problem is likely just her same old back.problem.
From: porcupine Sent: 12 Oct. 2004 Message 3 of 5
Thanks for your reply, but without being graphic, the problem is not with urination, but with "big time" potty. I think you are right about the surgery and her back.
From: Jimm Sent: 12 Oct. 2004 Message 4 of 5
That is not very much of a health problem compared to urination. Women I have known however find their easy finger insertion can make having their BM easier to express Of course, repair by surgery would end fisting. Naturally medical advise would be needed if anything were more than just a nuisance.
From: Cindy Sent: 28 Oct. 2004 Message 5 of 5
Dear Porcupine (and partner),
Sorry for this very late reply, and sorry to hear that the hysterectomy did not relieve your partner's problems with back pains. (I remember the thread where you asked about this back in January 2003.)
My advice, for what it is worth, is simply that your partner should talk to her doctor about the problem. Also, doing Kegel exercises might help. I do Kegel exercises and can confirm that keeping those muscles strong does not prevent them from also being very stretchable. At least if they also get regular stretching exercise! :-)
Good luck, hope it works out for your partner. Hearing about your great sex life despite your partner's health problems is positive in a way.
Love,
Cindy
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