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Message: Dandylion's Introduction

From: Dandylion25 Sent: November 5, 1999 Message 1 of 10

My friends know me as and call me Cheryl.

Born in Baden Baden, Germany and moved to Canada when I was 7. A sexy German girl now living in British Columbia, Canada.

I've always been somewhat unusual and loved many extremes and kinks even as a teen. Naturally, at that point, I was still developing many things about myself and finally has lead me to the wonderful lifestyle I now lead.

Started out with fisting, double fisting, and "normal" large objects and went up from there. Special circumstances have allowed me to take incredible objects very easily. As a rule of thumb, I will chat and roleplay with anyone interested BUT I WILL NOT just give-out photos. I do sexy pictures for now, my extreme photos... well, maybe one day.

I've been an admirer of Cindy and Joe since their debut on fistingsex.com years ago. It has been, perhaps, their dedication and adventurous side that has kept me and others interested in this fetish.

As busy and quiet as I may seem, thanks for everything that you've done and offered! =)

Luv Cheryl

From: Cindy-CindyAndJoe Sent: November 6, 1999 Message 2 of 10

Hi Cheryl,

> I've been an admirer of Cindy and Joe...

Thank you very much, and welcome to the club. I hope you continue to post messages.

I recall that you posted a message a while ago, saying that you were into "birthing". I've never heard of this in a sexual context and I'm wondering exactly what you mean by it?

Yours,
Cindy

From: zappaz1 Sent: December 4, 1999 Message 3 of 10

Yes, I think that Dandylion may be a lady I have chatted with on "Yahoo". Both of us were using different (Yahoo) usernames at the time.

I must have offended her, as she rejected my application to join her Excite Club using my zappaz1 name :-) *smile*

Correct me if I am wrong, but the birthing she refers to is the combined enjoyable feeling of the final passage of the infant, and "having a huge orgasm" during that exit of the infant from the vagina.

This is a rare occurrence but happens in one out of about two hundred births (usually in those that stretch very easily). They just "tremendously enjoy" the last part of the birth. The labor pains naturally are still bad... but the final passage of the infant out of the vagina is what gives the huge orgasm. Most women who experience this are reluctant to talk about it but "if you are standing there" you can easily tell it happens to them.

In the files section under "Preparation for fisting" I posted a long file where I mentioned my first knowledge of this phenomena many years ago when I ran across someone who wanted to duplicate that extreme feeling and its associated huge orgasm.

I am now aware of the occurrence of several other instances of this "birthing" phenomena since that time.

zappaz1@yahoo.com

From: Cindy-CindyAndJoe Sent: December 9, 1999 Message 4 of 10

It's very interesting to hear about something like this, which I'd never dreamed of before. I sure didn't experience anything like this when I gave birth ;-)

From: zappaz1 Sent: December 9, 1999 Message 5 of 10

This "Birthing Phenomena" with orgasm at the time of the exit of the baby is rather rare and I made the rough estimate (from what I know about it) of only one in two hundred. If you are there, you can see this in their reaction and in the face of women as they give birth. You can even confirm it later if they will agree to talk to you about it. However, I find you have to approach the subject obliquely to get their confirmation about having it happen to them.

It only happens in women who stretch very very easily with no pain on the final exit of the infant. It may be more common in the future as more women are preparing for delivery by some stretching beforehand. Cindy, I would bet you would respond differently to the "final passage" of a baby if ("heaven forbid"... at your age) you now had one :-)

"Birthing Fantasy" is where the women wants to reproduce the same experience and orgasm without actually having the baby. This is even more unusual, as very few even know about the "Birthing Phenomena" orgasms, and the amazing experience associated with it.

zappaz1@excite.com

From: Cindy-CindyAndJoe Sent: December 15, 1999 Message 6 of 10

Hi Zap,

Thank you very much for your postings. It's great that someone who has medical knowledge shares it with us. For the last five years or so I've really wished that I had contact with someone like you who could provide the factual information that you give.

As for "birthing", I'm amazed and intrigued. My experience is that women share horror stories about how awful giving birth can be. I've never heard of anyone actually considering it to be a turn on.

Yours,
Cindy

From: zappaz1 Sent: December 15, 1999 Message 7 of 10

Thank you Cindy. On the internet there is very little information on medical subjects that are of interest to this group. Even worse, there is a lot of misinformation.

Hopefully I might help a little... by reflecting on past experience. Personally I don't think that medical aspects take away from the "eroticism" of the subject... but some may differ in that opinion.

The pain from birthing is twofold. One is the "labor pains". These can NOT be avoided.

The second is the passage of the infant... and of course if one has to stretch "suddenly"... and is not prepared for this... there can be very severe pain and possible tearing.

In someone like yourself where the vagina will stretch to infant size with "no pain", this can be a very erotic and pleasant experience... and even lead to a huge orgasm.

There are only a few who are like you (at the time of delivery) and only about one in two hundred to my experience have this pleasant and erotic experience with orgasm.

As more women in the future prepare beforehand for delivery, birthing will be less painful and this pleasant experience will become more common.

zappaz1@excite.com

From: zappaz1 Sent: January 3, 2000 Message 8 of 10

Thank you Dandylion, for the reinvitation to join your club. It is a nice club to visit for those few that enjoy the very maximum size vagina and stretching. They can discuss their fetish and post examples of it.

It also has some interesting information about orgasmic birthing... giving a place where women who do or did this can "openly" admit and discuss it... without any embarrassment.

The private nature of the club also tends to keep out those who are not genuinely interested, and are just passing through... to cause you and... other members trouble.

The feature about "preserving the integrity" of fantasy by not permitting criticism of fantasy, is also nice.

zappaz1@excite.com

From: myepost Sent: January 3, 2000 Message 9 of 10

Hi
What club are you guys referring to?
It sounds like a club for me ;-)
mike

From: UsManiacs Sent: January 4, 2000 Message 10 of 10

Hi Dandylion,
I tried to join your club and never heard back from you. My hubby is a member, and we're into fisting & footing and very active here at this club and on my website as well. Are you not taking new members???
I would post some of my stretching pics on your club as well. :)
Anyway I checked out your website last night, very pretty! Love that pose of you in the shorts!
Gina