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Message: Finally... Sort Of

From: Hardwoode Sent: 03 July 2001 Message 1 of 7

Hello everyone! I guess this could be a New Member introduction but this General board seems to be where the action is so... I noticed a member in the New Member section who experienced the very thing I did when he started fisting his wife for the first time. It does appear that he got some help, but not alot. Maybe there will be some more info out there the second time around? Here's 'our' problem. I've been into fisting since the Helene Chevalier video days. Only recently did I meet a woman who would let me try. Most of the time I simply use four fingers just past the knuckles and my thumb works her clit. She loves that. When I put my thumb inside, before my wrist gets anywhere near her I can already feel the back wall of her vagina with my fingertips. Of course I don't want to hurt her so I back off. Are my fingers supposed to be straight:? That's what it looks like in the videos but it is called fisting, yes? When do you make a fist? What exactly should I 'feel' so I know I'm not hurting anything important like her cervix. I know you all have covered this ground probably but just a few opinions. Great site. Looks like fun. Bye for now.

H

From: J.I. Sent: 03 July 2001 Message 2 of 7

That is an excellent question, Hardwoode. The same thing happened to me and I attributed it to her having a 'short' vagina. Maybe I was wrong in my assumption and there was something else I should have done.

- J.I.

From: Joe Sent: 04 July 2001 Message 3 of 7

Hi Hardwoode,

> Are my fingers supposed to be straight:? That's what it looks like in the videos but it is called fisting, yes? When do you make a fist?

The way I do it I insert my fingers straight but then curl them somewhat inside the vagina. My fingers end up being quite curled, but not so much that I would call it a "fist". So from that point of view "fisting" is a misnomer.

> What exactly should I 'feel' so I know I'm not hurting anything important like her cervix.

In my experience it is pretty easy to know when you are touching the cervix. It feels like a circular structure with an indentation in the middle protruding into the vagina. DO NOT TRY TO ENTER THE CERVIX. But other than that it should not be dangerous to touch the cervix, assuming you keep your fingernails clipped and buffed and you wash your hands before fisting. Cindy and one other woman I have fisted like having their cervix caressed, another woman did not like to have her cervix played with, so I guess that's individual.

J.I.

> The same thing happened to me and I attributed it to her having a 'short' vagina.

In the case of Cindy she likes the feeling of being stretched, both laterally (stretching the vaginal entrance) and longitudinally (stretching her vagina length-wise). But this is something that should be done very slowly - maybe it will take months or even years for a short vagina to get longer. If the woman does not like the stretching sensation then there's probably not much you can do - she's not a suitable candidate for fisting.

Joe

From: Kayser Soze Sent: 04 July 2001 Message 4 of 7

Hardwoode-

Well, I thought I would post my experience here as well, considering that we might have a more similar situation that you and Joe.

My wife is a smaller woman, 5'0'' 107#. Took us a while to where we could fist. I remember in the beginning thinking that there sure isn't much room in here! I definitely can reach the back of her vagina, and often do. She is also one of these who would rather not have her cervix messed with.

ANYWAY.... much like Joe said, I curl my fingers around my thumb as the thumb goes in. Once in, I would say that I have what you would refer to as a fist, although, the thumb is inside the fingers. Sometimes, when she isn't loosened up quite enough, I have to push against her vagina some so that the thumb slides all the way inside -- since she prefers the fist all the way inside and not halfway in :-)

I have read in several places to go in palm up with her on her back. However, we have found that my hand goes in much more easily if we go in palm down, thumb toward her ass. I'm sure you'll find the position right for you though.

Good luck,
Soze

From: Chris & Julie Sent: 04 July 2001 Message 5 of 7

Much the same experience as Kayser Soze really, besides adding gentle pressure towards the anus direction while slightly rotating my hand a few degrees back-and-forth. I have also found that removal half-way and re-lubricating my hand (up to the wrist) has a positive affect on dilation. Once she has dilated enough her vagina almost starts sucking my hand into her, which makes her audibly anxious and I have to hit the brakes to slide in slower.

I do indeed assume a fist position (with the thumb clasped) when up to my wrist and enjoy massaging her cervix although I don't think she knows I am doing it (or gets a specific, positive charge from it .... yet).

This is so refreshing to be able to communicate like this. We fisters and fistees are such nice people. Don't you think?

From: Kayser Soze Sent: 04 July 2001 Message 6 of 7

Yes I think we are :-)

I also agree totally withChris and Julie. My experience has been very much the same.

Soze

From: Hardwoode Sent: 06 July 2001 Message 7 of 7

From Chris and Julie:
>This is so refreshing to be able to communicate like this. We fisters and fistees are
>such nice people. Don't you think?

Absolutely! And helpful too. Zapaz furnished a link in this message group that just might deep six my relationship, it's so hot :-o. Unfortunately my sweetie doesn't get much out of looking at jpg's or mpg's. I do, but it's hard not to um, squander my limited resources on solo orgasms when I go surfing. What do you know, Joe! I like it that you take such an active part in the goings on and share so much of your experiences with Cindy with all of us. I've never felt like becoming part of an online community before but the level of the communication here bespeaks of a high degree of civility among us all and a regard for language and (porn) art, etc. My kind of people. TNX

H (so much for intelligence, it's taken me this long to figure out how to post a reply)