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Message: Hard time

From: BATMAN Sent: 31 May 2001 Message 1 of 2

hello,
I am having a problem with my wife letting me stick big objects in her pussy. we have talked about fisting and she is willing to let me try, but she says that she is too small. I can get four fingers past the knuckles with my finger tips curled in all the way to my thumb. when i add my thumb it hurts her. To help i bought a large dildo 2-3/4" across. I thought this would help her stretch in hopes of one day fisting her. She wont even let me try to put it in. how can I convince her of my passion to fist more than I have? I have been and still being very patient, but am dying to fist. I have thought about finding someone else for this pleasure. Does anyone have any suggestions?

From: zappaz1 Sent: 01 June 2001 Message 2 of 2

Batman,

Don't give up on your wife-- and don't get someone else-- like you thought about.

Give your wife plenty of time. Sometimes it takes months or more. Use plenty of KY. Use the 4 fingers (you mentioned using) in a slow rotary motion of about 180 degrees. Try a quivering with the fingers inside-- and the thumb over the clitoris. Also try stimulation gently toward the front of the vagina (or G-Spot region) while you use some gentle clitoral stimulation. Watch her very closely to see what she likes best-- and remember to do that more. Tell her how you love her big vagina and how it stimulates your love for her-- as that is good-- and it helps her relax. Your main goal is to get her used to the 4 fingers and use them to produce orgasms for her. Just get her very used to those 4 fingers first (without the thumb inside). Stretching can start a couple of weeks after she has orgasms with you using those fingers.

Once those 4 fingers are in past the knuckles (like you mention) and your wife knows they bring on her orgasms you can begin stretching. A lot of slow stretching can be done by the turning of the hand while gently pressing the hand downward and toward the sides. New room for stretching is accomplished more toward the anal side and lower sidewalls of the vagina-- while using gentle pressure in that direction-- and turning the hand as you press. Always finish the stretching session by trying to produce an orgasm (especially stimulating the front side toward the G-spot, and use some clitoral stimulation). The front side vaginal stimulation will not make any new stretching but will give her the orgasms. I have only seen a few ladies who get orgasms from the lower and side wall vaginal stimulation where new stretching
happens. Most will like overall stretching combined with G-spot and clioral stimulation for orgasms. Some ladies like a vibratory quiver-- but study what your wife likes.

After this becomes routine, she will just expect this stretching method before obtaining her orgasms. Don't give her pain by trying the thumb. Just wait a few weeks first. Once she expects this method to get orgasms, after a few weeks, you can then use more pressure inward-- and add the thumb while turning and pressing inward. I have seen this slow method work many times-- as it increases vaginal opening size (introital size) before the thumb is added. Don't give up on her.

If this doesn't make any progress, buy her a little inflatable dildo capable of filling over 10 inches around and let her do the pumping. 10 inches is much less than a newborn's head circumference which is often 14 to 15 inches around-- although over 19 inches around have been recorded.

I would not recommend using a blood pressure balloon. The blood pressure balloons are used by ladies who want _huge_ vaginal stretching and they are not needed for just stretching to fisting size. Also, unless the vagina is quite large to start with, they can not be pumped large enough to smooth out their edges-- so with a small vagina-- they can be bothersome.

Once she starts pumping the inflatable dildo over 10 inches around there is a good chance your hand will fit inside-- provided your hand is not over a medium size.

Always stop if she complains of pain. Pain tightens things up. Nothing is accomplished whenever she starts hurting-- unless she wants to be a masochist. lol

Some ladies can do fisting from day one, and others have problems like you two do. Just don't give up-- unless she becomes totally unwilling to continue with your very slow progress. Give your wife the benefit of time to do this. I think she will be glad whenever that day comes.

Everything just works better if you both do this in a slow painless way that has a lot of fun along the road toward your goal. Good Luck