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Message: New to the group, but not new to fisting

From: vicobi Sent: February 23, 2000 Message 1 of 14

Hi!

I really appreciate this space/club. Since I was introduced to fisting by a female lover many years ago, there hasn't been any place I could go with medical-type questions. It was a delight to read through the posts here and have almost all my questions answered. Even the GYN's I've seen who are familiar with lesbians as patients aren't very helpful (well, not helpful at all is the truth).

As a female (bisexual) who has been on both sides of fisting, I hope no one would object to my perspective from time to time. I've been accused of "tunnel vision" often, so I can understand where some of the guys are coming from concerning their impatience to get their hand inside. It's not an easy demon to fight. And I can still remember being so goal-oriented about getting a hand inside that relaxing and enjoying the process was overshadowed by the goal. Thankfully I'm well past that.

Again, Thank You Cindy and Joe!

Vi

From: NastyKate Sent: February 26, 2000 Message 2 of 14

Being a bisexual woman myself, it is difficult when with a male lover who wants to fist you but is slightly impatient on wanting to go that last mile, their hands are somewhat more masculine I suppose, a womans hand smaller, softer and "gives" to the pressure easier. A woman can put her fist inside me much easier, and I mean the entire fist, past the wrist, where I barely get past the thumb knuckle with a male. I prefer a woman to fist me simply because I know she cant hurt me, I know my limits when with a male lover and it takes more time and patience.

From: vicobi Sent: February 26, 2000 Message 3 of 14

My biggest complaint with having a man's hand isn't from the size. It's from the more coarse hair (that no amount of lube seems to help), the sometimes rough knuckles (no amount of lube helps there either) and their manicures, or lack of (I can feel the slightest hang nail). With men I prefer they use a glove since it doesn't absorb any of the lube and covers all the other problems mentioned. My current fiancee is an exception. He's very careful about keeping his hands ready at a moments notice. He's a very good boy.

From: Joe-CindyAndJoe Sent: February 27, 2000 Message 4 of 14

Hi Vi,

Welcome to the club, and thank you for your compliment. (Cindy and I have been away for three days, thus the delay.)

> As a female (bisexual) who has been on both sides of fisting, I hope no one would object to my perspective from time to time.

Well, this club is primarily focused on vaginal fisting and pussy stretching, and I don't have any objection to the fister being female.

> He's a very good boy.

Well, I hope you treat him right, too :-)

Yours,
Joe

From: vicobi Sent: February 27, 2000 Message 5 of 14

Thanks Joe! I'm so glad you and Cindy have been so generous with your time to maintaining an area like this; it must be a considerable drain, but it shows what an act of love it is.

> Well, I hope you treat him right, too :-)

Of course! There's nothing like being able to have total trust in someone who treats it as graciously as he does.

No worry about the delay. Hope where ever you two were you were having fun!

Vi

From: _strauss1 Sent: February 28, 2000 Message 6 of 14

Hi All

I am a hetero sexual female but have recently develop an strong desire to be fisted by an other women and perhaps even fisting her too. I also love looking at other women with large vaginas. I am very accommodating but my husband has large hands and the thought of a smaller softer hand slipping with ease into my pussy and stretching me from within is just wonderful. I have discussed this with my husband who has agreed but I must choose the female. Perhaps you ladies can give me some advice as to what type of lady to look for, should she be a professional perhaps - first time and just in case, the right location, etc. As I want this to be a unforgettable experience for both of us, I would appreciate your ideas and comments.

Love

L

From: NastyKate Sent: February 28, 2000 Message 7 of 14

Dear L.

I too have had this search for 3 years, and unfortunately have found not many who are experienced, and feel it would take a great deal of time to get to that stage with a woman. I have been fisted by one woman, but mostly men. You have to have trust, once the friendship and attraction is there, then exploring with each other, touching, watching her expressions etc all of it comes into focus - especially if you talk to your husband who wonderfully seems to support you with this - to see what it is he is thinking, feeling and seeing when fisting or attempting to fist you, or even just when you are at that place in an orgasm where he is just watching you in awe....I suppose i haven't found the right woman because the few I have met and talked to aren't ready for that "kinky" part, they are bi but more into oral and not much in toys or the "dark side". I also met one lady who was experienced in this (not 4 years like me, but a year of male/female fisting) but I was just completely not attacted to her which impeded my ability to relax when we first had time alone to see if our chemistry matched - good luck in your search, personal ads might work, they haven't much for me, but keep reading and looking at this site, there aren't many out there, thank goodness for this one! you can feel free to email me at nastykate@excite.com and perhaps we can talk live someday on the phone.

warm regards,
Kate

From: vicobi Sent: February 29, 2000 Message 8 of 14

Chemistry is so important. So is knowing the person since you're allowing them to put their hands into you (and you putting your trust in them).

My ex female lover and I had been together for a while before she fisted me. And, to be honest, I didn't realize it at the time, but she'd been massaging and preparing me all along. Now I know she could have pushed a little harder and gone much faster, but I had no idea what she was doing; all I knew was it felt fantastic! I didn't even realize she had her hand in me until she handed me a mirror and told me to look. I knew she had a lot of *something* inside me, but it felt so good I didn't really care or pay much attention to what it was. After that, I was her slave.

I think finding someone for the first time should be done carefully. Make sure they know what they're doing and understand it is your first time. Your cycle can play a part in how easily you accomodate a hand also. Don't be afraid to ask her to wear gloves. It's not for your protection alone and I never found it limited sensation that much (but it sure made cleaning up easier). In fact, there have been times when I took off the gloves and expected to find wet hands underneath anyway. It also helps keep more of the lube where you need it. My hands tend to be dry and they absorb a lot of the moisture, so gloves help (for an added beauty treatment, put a heavy coating of lotion on before slipping on the gloves - the heat works wonders for me!). Gloves also help protect you from fingernails. Even if I'm not asked to wear gloves, if I think my nails are too long for me to be fisted comfortably if they were on someone else, I'll slip into a pair just to be sure.

As for lube, I really like some of the products made for getting in and out of a wet suit. They slick right back up with a spritz from a spray bottle. I dislike astroglide. It felt grainy to me after just a short time. KY is the all time favorite, and it slcks back up real quick with a spritz also. Most Aloe or vitamin E gels have additives in them that may sting (for me they're worse than astroglide) - stuff like alcohols, fragrance, coloring, preservative - they aren't things you need "down there". And, if you're ever in doubt as to whether or not you have enough, you DON'T. If you think you have enough, you PROBABLY don't.

The other thing to remember about your first time is it may take a few first tries. Just don't get so hung up on the goal - enjoy it all, from beginning to end.

From: NastyKate Sent: February 29, 2000 Message 9 of 14

I wish I had a female lover to share this with, more then I realize at times - I suppose my time will come where I can have a bi friendship and include this in my life with a woman and not just my male partner. It is difficult in todays times to find what you really need vs what society thinks you should have.

From: vicobi Sent: March 1, 2000 Message 10 of 14

You're not kidding, Kate! Even within the societies it's difficult. I don't know of any bi females who participate in fisting. And while some of the lesbians I knew do, there seems to be a strong division between the ones who think *any* penetration is "unlesbian" and those who don't see penetration as "penis substitution". You can't imagine how quickly my "dyke card" was yanked when I realized I could love a person for who they are despite what lurks in their shorts. How many lesbian friends do I have now? Not nearly as many as I had before I recognized my bisexuality.

Do I still want to find a female (lesbian or bi) who isn't freaked out by another female who isn't all hung up on garbage like that? Without a doubt! But finding one who is all hung up herself has been an impossible mission.

I miss the feeling of having myself wrist deep in writhing female flesh, feeling the almost electric jolts of her g-spot when she gives up her throbs. Even now it makes my hands tingle just at the thought. I'm sure some of the guys KNOW what I'm talking about!

From: NastyKate Sent: March 2, 2000 Message 11 of 14

You couldn't of said it more elogantly - where or where do you live? feel free to email me anytime if you just want to chat.

Love Kate

From: _strauss1 Sent: March 5, 2000 Message 12 of 14

Thank you both for your wonderful comments and advice.

To Kate

I agree with your statement that there are not many females about who like to talk about the more kinky or dark side of sex, including myself. I would find it very embarrassing to talk to my girlfriends about my fantasies and the fact that I have a large cunt and like to be fisted. I once mentioned to a girlfriend I worked with about my affair with a much younger man with a massive thick cock. When I described the details of his private parts she was amazed that I was able to take him at all. But when she said that I must be quite big down there because there was no way that she would be able to accommodate such a thick member, I immediately changed the subject and we have never talked about it since. Even with my husband I would not discuss the size of my vagina, until recently that is, and would get very annoyed if he mentioned or said that he loved my big cunt. Thankfully, this is a thing of the past. I now love talking about it and even encourage my husband when we are making love to comment about my vagina and how big it is. I do not know what brought this change about but I find myself increasingly wanted more kinkier sex, hence my desire for a threesome with another female. I have develop an incredible appetite for female genitals, in particular large ones. I would love to be fisted by another women because I would love to feel her hands slipping deep into my cunt. Because of my husband's large hands he can only get just past the knuckles when he hits the bottom. A smaller softer female hand would go right in and I cannot wait. Since my last note, I have been in touch with an escort agency, explained my desire and have already spoken with a lady who seems to fit the bill perfectly. She is about 30 and loves fisting, both giving and receiving. I am just waiting for the right time to place that call. I will let you know if and when it happens.

To Vicobi

I think the above explains my situation more fully but I appreciated your contribution.
Thanks again

Love

L

From: NastyKate Sent: March 5, 2000 Message 13 of 14

Dear L.

thank you for being so open - I never thought of a escort agency - now that is a thought, I am wondering how much that would cost and to describe what I am looking for would be difficult, but I might do that just to inquire and find the appropriate time to do what you are thinking of doing. This way there isn't a long exhausting search - and my fantasy is fulfilled.

take care, love kate

From: jimbo2112_uk Sent: June 8, 2000 Message 14 of 14

well ..... if any of you ladies would like to combine the male and female side .... I have small hands but I am a male. I have only ever fisted 3 girls. But it is my all time fave. Completely agree with all that was said above!

I know this thread is old. But if any ladies care to reply.........

Jimbo
jimbo2112@btinternet.com