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Message: Words of wisdom ?

From: coal_snake Sent: 21 Dec. 2003 Message 1 of 7

I finally let slip to my girlfriend that I'm into this, and to my surprise, she said she wanted to try it right away. But there's a couple problems. One, she's tiny. 5'0'' tall....110lbs. Two, we're both very young (under 20) and not very experienced. I want to make sure she enjoys herself, whatever happens, so what would some of you guys/girls suggest? I know it will take a while, and I explained that to her, but is there anything else I should know?

From: Joe Sent: 22 Dec. 2003 Message 2 of 7

Hi "coal snake",

I can see that you've been a member of "Cindy and Joe" for over a year, so you've probably already seen this, my "standard advice" for people who want to get into vaginal fisting or to achieve more progress:

1. Read Cindy's first story "Two Hands Are Almost Enough", which you can find here: http://CindyAndJoeArchive.com/CindyStory1.htm

2. Look in "The 'Cindy and Joe' Data Archive" web site in the Information section (http://CindyAndJoeArchive.com/info.htm), especially the the "Message Archives" section. These messages (http://CindyAndJoeArchive.com/Messages/Cat08/index.htm) should be especially interesting, and this message thread (http://CindyAndJoeArchive.com/Messages/Cat08/msg00086.htm) is a "classical" answer to many problems involving lack of success.

3. Let the woman be the "project leader" and indicate what she wants done and how much.

4. Take it easy and have fun. Only work on the stretching when both of you are enjoying it.

5. Don't expect quick results. Consider this to be a project that may take many months or even a year or more, and that may never succeed to the extent that you hope. But enjoy the process and don't focus so much on the goal.

As for your young age, there have also been a couple of message threads about this:
http://cindyandjoearchive.com/Messages/Cat02/msg00453.htm
http://cindyandjoearchive.com/Messages/Cat02/msg00618.htm

Good luck.

Joe

From: KayserSozeII Sent: 22 Dec. 2003 Message 3 of 7

I would have to agree with everything Joe has said (of course) I would also like to add that your girlfriend's size really has nothing to do with it. My ex-wife was exactly her size and she was able to enjoy fisting after 4 months or so of effort. Joe hit on the key point exactly, let the woman be the leader. Also, lube is CHEAP so use LOTS. If you make sure fisting becomes a very sensual and erotic act between you two, working up to it will be a joy. She will become excited to obtain the end result. Make sure you believe that fisting is something you share together not something you do to someone. Tell her how sexy she looks as you are working toward it and how she feels around your hand. This not only goes for fisting but for sex and intimacy in general.

Good luck to ya!
Soze

From: coal_snake Sent: 22 Dec. 2003 Message 4 of 7

Thanx guys

From: sewsueme54 Sent: 22 Dec. 2003 Message 5 of 7

I would like to add that, even though we have been involved in doing fisting
for about 2 years, sometimes it STILL does not feel right. I love it most
of the time, but there are times when I just can't stand it. I'm not sure
what it is...the angle of the fist, the time of the month (although I am in
menopause), or just how my vagina is reacting....at times, it absolutely
hurts. That is the time I tell my partner to stop (and he does). If it
hurts, it just is NOT right and should be stopped. It's a long and involved
process to get yourself stretched, so take your time. My boyfriend has very
large hands and it took us a while to get to the point where he could get
his whole fist inside. I am not sure he could ever get both of his hands in
there. We belong to a swinger's group and I have had men fist me and I
wondered if their fists were really inside, so that tells you how large his
hands are! At any rate, take your time and let the woman tell you how it
feels. If she is not verbal, watch her "body language" and her face. If
it's uncomfortable from the get-go, it won't be fun at all.

From: EEX51021 Sent: 8 Jan. 2004 Message 6 of 7

May i have the pass pleaaaaaaase ...and a happy new year from old germany ...

love Gerry

From: Joe Sent: 8 Jan. 2004 Message 7 of 7

> May i have the pass pleaaaaaaase

If you're talking about the username and password needed to access the Cindy video clips on our "archive web site", then it can be found in the Documents section of this MSN group.Just click on Documents over on the left.

Joe