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Message: Another "new" guy

From: yotsuparai Sent: 21 June 2002 Message 1 of 5

Hi'ya everyone, I'm compleatly new to the idea of fisting. Untill a coulpe of days ago I didn't even know there was a word for such a thing. I thought it was the damnest thing I ever saw, and I got turned on to it quick. A while ago when I was staying in Japan, a very good friend invited me to a party. She really didn't care too much for the girlfriend I had at the time and incesed I meet some of her girlfriends' buddies. It started harmless enough, a shit load of people, music, drinking, dancing. Untill they started playing drinking games!! I knew a few of the people there but I was generally new to the group, so I got fucked with. I knew the hype about Japanese S&M but these fool got crooked. Somewhere between my twenty-somethingth asahi and a buncha shots of saki, my friend says she wants me to meet some one special. She leads me to another part of the complex where a few of her friends ducked taped the shit outta me to a stool, they tell me they want me to watch them fuck the shit outta this girl. Sure as shit, my friend, her girlfriend and some philipino chick had some japanese girl tied the fuck up and gagged on a bed. I'm sitting there like "COOL". They do the dike thing for a few minutes untill they put a piece of tape over my mouth. Now I'm "OH OOH". They break out this big ass dildo, and the girl on the bed starts panicking when they show it to her. She starts thrashing around as best she could and trying to scream as they start fucking this tiny ass woman with this big ass thing. I'm there dumbfounded, drunk and just like "DAAAMN". Well the girl on the bed fucks up and starts laughing. The rest of them try to recover but realize it ain't working. So they take the tape off the girls mouth and start bullshitting while their diddling her with this monster. Then my friend jumps up and tells me to check out this cool trick. She snatches out the dildo and poses like she about to do a magic trick. She shows me her hand, then says "now you see it...... now you don't". I'll admit it, I was "DDDDUUUUHHHH". Aside from the big ass dildo in a tiny woman to check out my friend with her hand up the girl was unbelieveable. To finish up the story, the girl in the bed got dressed, every one minus my friend and her girl went back to the party, I got hooked up with the prisoner, learned a few things. Ever sence the usual in and out just isn't up to par anymore.
I got shiped back the the good ol US and started looking up insane penetration stuff and found something even better than some porn site. I hope to get to know you all and hopefully have more stories for my friends back in japan.

From: Joe Sent: 21 June 2002 Message 2 of 5

Welcome to our group, yotsuparai.

That's an interesting story. I was thinking I was going to have to delete your message when I was half way though it, but when you said that the forced-sex aspect was just for fun that made it somewhat different. We're very much opposed to any activity that can even indirectly imply an acceptance of one person forcing another person to do anything.

Joe

From: bitmap Sent: 22 June 2002 Message 3 of 5

Hi,

I was surprised that you almost deleted that interesting post. BDSM is never forced on anyone. The rules are very strict on non-consensual play. As a matter of fact, fisting until the the last two years was the only form of "human sexual" contact between players allowed in most groups.

We were introduced to fisting and object play when we join an area BDSM group. As we expanded into other groups we learned of other fetishes. Personally, we do not like everything about BDSM but you learn to let other do their thing. Walk away if it's not your thing. A good BDSM player will respect you. Stay away from a pushy one.

Back to fisting. We found it very enjoyable and as we moved toward swinging tried to take the fisting knowledge along. Swingers nowhere as kinky as they think they are. Plain swapping and threesomes are their thing. Fisting scares most most swingers unless you slowing introduce it to them without saying what it is. They have no concept of working up to a fist.

To yotsuparai, if you want to find a girl to fist, look into a local BDSM group or parties. I suggest you visit some sites to understand the rules and concepts.

BTW Joe & Cindy, you have a very nice site.

From: Joe Sent: 23 June 2002 Message 4 of 5

I'm very aware that BDSM doesn't involve force, but yotsuparai's story sounded (for a while) like he had stumbled into something different.

Being the co-manager of a sex web site featuring sexual activities somewhat beyond the average I think it's very important that nobody gets the impression that these activities are something they can demand that their partner goes along with if she doesn't want to. That's why I'm especially sensitive to this issue.

Joe

From: yotsuparai Sent: 26 June 2002 Message 5 of 5

Thanks Joe,

I really intend for it to sound like that when I was writing it. Now that I look at it, it does give off and odd atmosphere at first, but I guess you've had to have been there. I know my friend, and I know she wouldn't partake in something like that with someone she didn't know or someone who didn't like something like that. Besides she had this shit eating grin that always gave her away when she tried to lie, play a trick or anything of the like. And if I didn't think it was some kinda gag my expressions would've been a little different than "DDDDAAAMMMNNN" and "COOL".

Bitmap, thanks for the advice, what sites do you recomend. Finding this site was a bitch and a half (but well worth the effort).